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Post by loraline on May 20, 2008 13:36:23 GMT -5
not just the new members... lol  and will get you get rid of that 13 on your karma... lol |
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Post by littlesnowflake on May 20, 2008 13:45:29 GMT -5
lol thanks I hope you don't mind getting the 13 now...  |
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Post by loraline on May 20, 2008 15:13:35 GMT -5
;D lucky number... ;D
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Post by Jade on May 25, 2008 5:38:48 GMT -5
Another thing that impresses me with James Blunt: Seldom does someone release an album where I find every track to be amazing. As for B2B as well as for ATLS it’s exactly that… you can just put it on and let it run all the way through… and for some strange reason both his CD’s are records I never tire of listening to, still getting a shiver down my spine more than once with each play. Some people may dismiss some of his songs as simplistic or radio-friendly ("Three and a half minute" and all that.. ), but obviously it works and I really can't see a reason why it should be a bad thing to be able to reach out to so many listeners all around the world (hmm, mass appeal is a pretty nasty word, though). As for my previously made comment, I came across a statement by a music critic on MSN's Music Editors page related to James' 'Live on a hilltop' performance in order to launch ATLS. I thought it fits in here somehow (although it's nothing to do with John's music.. or maybe it has?? ) That's what the critic wrote:"I didn't have a major problem with James Blunt before the Ibiza jolly. Yeah, I found You're Beautiful irritating after the 50 millionth time I heard it but that would happen with any song. The fact that someone's overplayed shouldn't have any bearing on your opinion of their music. Neither should the circumstances of their upbringing, come to that.
I have a long-standing argument with a colleague (mentioning no names, Dom) about this. He saw James Blunt supporting Beth Orton about three years ago, before anyone had heard of him, and was, by his own admission, blown away. Now he can't stand him. My question when this row flares up periodically is always, what changed? It can't be the music, so it must be the fact that the music connected with millions; the mainstream, the masses, the people who buy their CDs in Tesco. Snobbery again, just of a different hue.
As for the album, I got to hear some of it live that night in Ibiza and the rest after the gig. It's good. Some of it's very good. A song called I Really Want You in particular stood out for me. I can see it being a huge hit in a couple of months time and then routinely slagged off a couple of months after that. Such is life."Such is life - I'm afraid that's the truth...  |
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Post by loraline on May 25, 2008 6:15:58 GMT -5
But by then, the entire world has heard it Quite often, you find songs jumping the billboards in no time... and being forgotten all about after the hype is over... There are exceptions, James being one of them, who manage to stand out after the hype. There are also many artists, who don't jump the billboards, but need to build up their audience more slowly. Their music often stands for a long time, their albums rarely hit the top 100, yet those who know the music remain faithful a lifetime And best part is, the artist knows his fans by face/name and they know him And when he is performing, you will always be front row |
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Post by lyra on May 25, 2008 6:35:29 GMT -5
But by then, the entire world has heard it Quite often, you find songs jumping the billboards in no time... and being forgotten all about after the hype is over... There are exceptions, James being one of them, who manage to stand out after the hype. There are also many artists, who don't jump the billboards, but need to build up their audience more slowly. Their music often stands for a long time, their albums rarely hit the top 100, yet those who know the music remain faithful a lifetime And best part is, the artist knows his fans by face/name and they know him And when he is performing, you will always be front row Yeah,it's true. In the front row?? It was Julia (She's gonna kill me for saying this), we were after her. Oh, I miss those days, those Budapest shows with so nice people, that now are my friends. There are so many singers or groups that play without audience, and then thanks to a spot or a big promo, money to commercial radio stations"their music is the best" and everyone want to attend to their shows. Sometimes it'll be because they love the music by the band, but in other occasions, it's just because they are "famous". For example, I get a bit angry when someone told me if I don't like the music by a group, that thanks to a promo (money for radio stations ), it's very known now. I tell him/her that I like their music before, and sometimes, I enjoyed his music in live, when other people said :it's only a supporter. Ok,I express it badly, I hope you can guess what I mean. It's like Snow Patrol. I loved their music when I listened to Run in acoustic version on the radio. So finally I attended to one of their shows. And the following year, they were very "famous" because on their songs in Grey's Anatomy. In those days, one of my friends wanted to see them, but in the first occasion, she told me: you know some kind of music....Who the **** knows that band? It's an example from millions more. I'll just add that when someone gets famous faster, then he/she has to work harder to mantein the audience. Some bands are famous with the first CD and then are forgotten. |
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Post by link15 on May 25, 2008 8:50:21 GMT -5
Not that it matters, but...here it goes....
July 7 2005, I was driving to my brothers house 2 hours away. and was listening to my fav station out of NYC. The dj said, "I was in Italy and wouldn't get out of a taxi til I knew who sang this song" and he played YB. I pulled the car over and my life changed. NO ONE knew who he was here. People that heard of him only heard of him cause they were on Holiday over there, and heard it on the radio every time they turned around. I couldn't get B2B here, I couldn't get anything on him here. I joined his message board, and was one of the first American's on there for MONTHS. I did anything it took to get his music out there over here. I asked every single person I came across if they heard of him. I finally got B2B (downloaded it somehow) and listened to it in public as much as I could. I was at his first US show ever (where he was the only one performing), I was there at the begining of JB over here. (and he hasn't forgotten it either, he is one of the most amazing guys I know)
John's music is reminding me of the same thing. I am doing what it's gonna take to get his music out there. Like Flakie has said, unless it's an actual single, it's hard to push. It's hard to tell radio stations to play him, but I'm hoping the more work we do, a single may happen, making it easier for all of us.
No one has moved me in music in my life like James has...John is a VERY VERY close second. I don't bust my tail for just anyone. I really have to believe in someone. I believe in both of these guys! and deep down, I think James appreciates everything from his fans...and we all know John appereciates it!
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Post by littlesnowflake on May 25, 2008 11:48:53 GMT -5
That was sweet Ellen. I think you summed it up pretty well. It's a shame that the music industry / radio stations don't see it this way and the real artists often don't get the support they need and deserve. John said the music industry is a joke. And he is absolutely right, it's so obvious.
There are surely not many artists I believe in... but John is one of them. Maybe the one I believe in most, he changed a lot for me.
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Post by Jade on May 25, 2008 13:10:42 GMT -5
Oh, I think you all summed it up pretty well. John's music is reminding me of the same thing. I am doing what it's gonna take to get his music out there. Like Flakie has said, unless it's an actual single, it's hard to push. It's hard to tell radio stations to play him, but I'm hoping the more work we do, a single may happen, making it easier for all of us. No one has moved me in music in my life like James has...John is a VERY VERY close second. I don't bust my tail for just anyone. I really have to believe in someone. I believe in both of these guys! and deep down, I think James appreciates everything from his fans...and we all know John appereciates it![/color] There are also many artists, who don't jump the billboards, but need to build up their audience more slowly. Their music often stands for a long time, their albums rarely hit the top 100, yet those who know the music remain faithful a lifetime [/b] And best part is, the artist knows his fans by face/name and they know him And when he is performing, you will always be front row [/quote] I totally agree with all the above!!! Very well put!! Though it still annoys me that the music industry is anything but fair, I think the core element and what really counts is the artist's passion for making music and the ability to stay true to oneself. |
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Post by link15 on May 26, 2008 0:09:21 GMT -5
I went into the city (NYC) tonight to see a band play in some other part of the village. I drive in, go to the "gig" as I was one of the only ones there, was amazed at how good the singer was, and got in the car and started to drive home, except I have NO clue where I am. I made a turn to get out of traffic and try and figure out where I was, I look up, and the street looks familar. I was stopped in front of the "Rockwood Music Hall". And I just stared at it. And felt empty as I just saw John play there not too long ago. I want him to come back!
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Post by Jade on May 31, 2008 12:41:00 GMT -5
Though it still annoys me that the music industry is anything but fair, I think the core element and what really counts is the artist's passion for making music and the ability to stay true to oneself. I like my musical ability. I wish I was better at selling it. Guess my previously made comment sounds pretty naive, as I really have no idea how much money it takes to record/produce an album.  I think even if if the recording process is kept simple it's still a huge amount of money. So, staying true to oneself as an artist is one thing, to earn a living out of that is definitely another question. It's all so much easier with the help from a major record label, as they spend thousands and thousands of Pounds/Dollars or whatever it is on adds and have all the connections that are so badly needed to get the music heard. For example, Coldplay's new single "Violet Hill" was given away as a free download and in addition to that featured on the frontpage of MySpace, so it's little wonder then, that one of the Youtube videoclips got nearly 1 Million hits within 10 days after it was posted. Nonetheless (or just because) many, many people bought the single, so the week after its release it started at #10 in the German Top 100 singlecharts. The song is good indeed, at least I like it, but it is, by no means whatsoever, any better or more original than anything Garrison/Budapest I've heard so far. Bottomline: Staying true to oneself as an artist is so easily said and so hard to be done!!!  |
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Post by littlesnowflake on May 31, 2008 17:02:08 GMT -5
That's true... sad but true  thanks to the music industry and their stupid rules that say popularity and money are more important than music and passion |
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Post by link15 on Jun 1, 2008 1:43:48 GMT -5
My main belief is...an artist should only have to worry about making the music and performing. They shouldn't have to "sell themselves". It comes across as being "egotistical" etc. if the artist themselves calls a club to see how to get in. If you get the right friends to back ya, they make the calls for ya, and all John has to worry about is getting there on time. (someone else should remember the CD's to sell, not John's job to remember that, his job is to get on that stage and play he a** off!)
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and will get you get rid of that 13 on your karma... lol 
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thanks to the music industry and their stupid rules that say popularity and money are more important than music and passion